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#1 Iredude

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:10 PM

So after I destroyed my work laptop today, and my personal laptop has been struggling to keep up lately with multiple clients of EvE running, I'm considering a new laptop.  Yes laptop, not desktop.  I was hoping for some feedback from anyone who has any thoughts about specs, versions of things, etc...

 

1 - I will be using this to run at least EvE 2 clients at the same time and would like to do so with full graphics with no degradation of performance like I get now with my 3 year old laptop.

2 - I heard that the Intel graphics cards can put off some of the graphics processing to the default motherboard graphics and to go with AMD instead?  Is this still a thing?

3 - No plans, but want the option, to stream and or record video/sound.  Will also be doing so photo editing

4 - Was considering this - http://www.xoticpc.c...nes-p-7103.html

5 - Also want this to be able to handle any of the newer games out or coming out in the next year with max graphics

 

Any thoughts?  Gotcha's?


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:26 PM

any particular reason you dont want a desktop? as a rule of thumb a laptop equivalent to a given pc in specs will be at least 2x more expensive....

if you're dead set on a laptop, get something with dedicated graphics i would suggest going for broke and ordering something from a boutique dealer like digital storm if you want enthusiast level gaming in a laptop, it'll cost you an arm and leg though, but thats the price of having the privilege of lugging around a 20 pound gaming laptop.


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:36 PM

This is what I have for work...it runs 2 clients with no problem at the highest settings.

 

http://www.amazon.co...l/dp/B00B588J6S


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:50 PM

What's your price range?


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 06:05 PM

Yeah, pretty set on a laptop.  Desktop would probably end up costing me more due to other things I would need to get for it, monitor(s), new desk chair for hours of loafing, a TV and mounted in my office, change of my TV plan to get 2nd box.  Have to have the TV, March Madness & baseball start soon.

 

Thanks Ki, I'll check out those specs.

 

Dedicated graphics, that is what I had heard was an issue with EvE and Intel graphics.  That it would offload to the motherboard for some reason but maybe it has been fixed, this was last year when I heard that.

 

Price range is @ $2000.

 

I'm looking also at cyberpowerpc.com and xoticpc.com, both of which make dedicated gaming systems.  I'll take a look at Digital Storm, their calling out of their cooling technology is a plus over the other two sites.


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:38 PM

Hi Iredude!

 

Guess the most important part for gaming is the mobile graphics card, for benchmarks see http://www.notebookc...List.844.0.html.

 

Make sure you get an SSD instead of a regular hard drive, this was the best upgrade I ever did. You might not see much improvement in EVE, but day to day work will be much much faster (running multiple clients and even games at the same time  is no problem - I sometimes alt+tab between games!).

 

Top 10 current gaming laptops: http://www.notebookc...ks.98628.0.html

This will give you an idea of the hardware you're looking for (CPU, graphics, etc). Basically the best Intel Core i7 CPU and graphics card (currently the Geforce GTX 980M), combined with an SSD and 16GB of memory (or 8GB depending on your budget).

 

No recommendation on shops, as I don't live in North America.

 

 


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:51 PM

Thanks Abysus, I wasn't sure about the benefit of a SSD vs cost increase but I can see where I would get some use out of it, photo stuff, recording, etc..

 

I'll check out those lists, was surprised to see Alienware #2 still even after Dell bought them.


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:27 PM

Thanks Abysus, I wasn't sure about the benefit of a SSD vs cost increase but I can see where I would get some use out of it, photo stuff, recording, etc..

 

I'll check out those lists, was surprised to see Alienware #2 still even after Dell bought them.

 

Alienware isn't nearly as bad at laptops as they are at desktops.


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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:50 PM

you can check out http://www.ibuypower.com/ also. A buddy of mine bought a desktop from them that he was pretty happy with.


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Posted 07 March 2015 - 03:21 AM

Is the other stuff porn? It's porn, isn't it?


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Posted 07 March 2015 - 04:19 AM

For the kind of money you are willing to spend on the laptop, http://www.malibal.com/or http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834231090

 

There are some seriously high end desktops you can build for that budget though fyi.


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Posted 07 March 2015 - 04:49 AM

For the kind of money you are willing to spend on the laptop, http://www.malibal.com/or http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834231090

 

There are some seriously high end desktops you can build for that budget though fyi.

 

yea for 2000$ (US im assuming) you can build a seriously pimp desktop....
 


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Posted 07 March 2015 - 05:34 AM

Try MSI.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 02:30 PM

Sweet, thanks for the feedback guys, I have much research to do.

 

Clio, I cannot confirm nor deny that...but yes.


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Posted 07 March 2015 - 09:06 PM

http://www.amazon.co...m/dp/B00K81O3RW is what I'm using. Works fine for 2 clients. 

 

Always replace a laptop HDD with a SSD; a 5400rpm drive is a huge bottleneck and a 7200rpm drive still bottlenecks while draining battery. Hybrid drives are pretty lousy too. I highly recommend intel for SSDs, OCZ has given me problems in the past with shitty buggy controllers. http://www.amazon.co...uct/B00DTPYT78/is what I'm using. 


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Posted 07 March 2015 - 09:55 PM

I just got the Asus G751JY yesterday, tried in on the command vs average joe fight an am loving it :) haven't had a chance to do anything else with it yet but damn....
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Posted 18 March 2015 - 03:19 AM

Very late reply here and regret didnt get to this earlier but glad to hear you're doing fine with the Asus...For anybody else that is looking for something mobile for Eve and "stuff", there are two things I recommend...either a Surface Pro 3 or an 11"/13" MacBook Air...hear me out below before telling me how they're expensive and that I'm a hardcore fanboy:

 

- Eve can run and even dualbox on any semi-potato nowadays...the "extra" graphic settings are all pretty much useless and even with everything on, it'll still run well on semi-potatoes....

- SP3 and MacBook air are more than semi-potatoes...sure , they don't have high end discrete graphics cards but the On-chip Intels nowadays are more than adequate...not to mention built in flash/ssd drives with with ever so efficient CPU dies makes this a non-issue

- Both are very portable and great for work with connectivity options which allow for monitor/keyboard/mouse easily...the SP3 has a sweet dock as well (unfortunately an extra purchase) which makes docking up (no pun intended) rather simple

- People that can't stand OSX?  No problem at all! --

1) OSX is extremely simple and efficient...seriously once you start using it you won't go back...it's also powerful too if you need it to be and you can get down and dirty with it (its simpler for basic users compared to windows and way more configurable for the advanced tweaker/"hax0r")

2) You can just VM and/or dualboot into Windows...When I used to rock an 11" MBA, I had a windows VM running at all time and when I needed to play PC games or do Windows stuff, I just rebooted into that same exact VM I was running while in OSX...It requires a bit more setup if using Virtual Box (free) but is a lot simpler using  Parallels or VMware Fusion.

- Most importantly, with a mobile/cellular data connection you can login to EVE anywhere!  with the SP3 you won't look like a total geek while on the train where you can get by with some basic stuff on the touch screen...

 

Now the biggest problem is most obviously price...neither of these things run cheap...with the SP3, you want to ideally go for the i5 model which is a couple hundred shy of $1k USD...if you require more space, thats also a significant premium (the SP3 surprisingly has a microSD card slot so you can get away with that, not so much for the MBA.  Secondly is the specialized power adapters which are unique and more expensive for a second one if you require one.


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Posted 21 March 2015 - 01:21 PM

an update on what I've said above....I have tried to run EVE on a SP3 I borrowed from work.  It actually runs choppier than I expected at full settings (didn't realize the newer ship textures and lighting was so much more demanding than before).  To be fair, the native resolution is pretty high as well clocking in at 2160 x 1440.  I'm sure that dropping it down a notch or two could make it run a lot more smooth.


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Posted 21 March 2015 - 03:54 PM

inevitable - EVE has textures? :D


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 04:24 PM

After everyone took time out of their days to provide helpful input I felt I should let you know what I ended up with.  Below are the specs for the new laptop I am expecting to have delivered today.  So excited to see actual quality graphics while I play.  If I messed up any part of the config and you see something below that will be a glaring mistake to use keep it to yourself, don't deflate my hopes as I'll find out soon enough and there is nothing I can do about it now anyway.

 

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