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#1 Mangala Solaris

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 01:23 PM

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When: Saturday 28th June 2014
 
Time: Form up  - 16.45 UTC / Depart  - 17.15 UTC
 
Where: Poinen
 
What: Arty Ruptures > Shield Logi > Ewar > Tackle, lots of tackle.
 
FC: Mangala Solaris
 
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FC says:
 
As discussed here, EVE University approached us with a proposition. That we fight them in a lowsec system. I came to you all and sought your view points and y'all said yes.  Hence this event. 
We will be flying some fun ships (to be posted in my next post), shield fit with shield logi support. If you cannot fly the given race I will also post up some recommended support fits or ships capable of doing similar things to the Ruptures.
 
This could be a reshipping fight, so I recommend you get to Hek and buy / setup at least 1 other ship in Nein (as we'll be like 12 jumps from RvB space for this fight and HEK is the closest hub).
 
Podding will be advised against, however we all know you will do it anyway, so get your own pods of field when dead.
 
Do not jump into highsec with suspect or criminal timers either if those happen.

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#2 Mangala Solaris

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 01:25 PM

Low SP Rupture:

 

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T2 Guns + Tons of Tank (Needs TWO fitting rigs though, which is painful....):

 

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T2 Guns, no fitting rigs, but a single fitting module to give better resists via rigs

Point can be swapped for a second Invuln if you want or a TC:

 

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Yes they all have a spare high. Could roll a missile launcher of some sort, but I will leave that to pilots discretion as OMG choices ;)

Ammo wise please bring: EMP M, Phased Plasma M, Depleted Uranium M and Carbonised Lead M for T1 users. EMP, Phased and Tremor for T2 users.

 

 

Logi:

 

Scythes are the order of the day. I am thinking AB Scythes for RvB so try this:

 

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However I have been advised that this CAN work with its MWD going just fine:

 

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If you can, could some logi pilots bring a few armour bots?  As we'll have one or two armour ships with us, and I dont want them to be left out ;)
 
 
Ewar
 
Damp fit Shield Celestis:
 
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Arbitrator. No real way to shield fit this without gimping all those TD slots ;) So armour may have to be the go to for this one (Although even a shield fit with just an LSE and 2 tds + shield rigs COULD work)

 

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Bellicose:

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Obviously change the launchers as per your SP.  Bring all damage types of faction missiles.

 

Vigils, Hyenas and Keres will also be welcome as will tackle. I am not going to legislate those fits too much as, hey this RvB, you can fit frigs can't you?!

 

 

Alternates to Ruptures for those who cannot fly slave airways.

 

RLML Caracal:

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Rail Thorax.  Bring AM, Lead, and/or Spike (if t2 user).  Can hit out to comparable distances with the Arty Rupture and key fact is shield tanked!

 

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Outside of the arbitrator I really am having trouble making something as good as the rax or the caracal alternatives work for the Amarr. So suck it up and learn to fly slave ;)

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#3 Razak Harm

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 01:43 PM

Looks like a Rupture-tastic Saturday, better buy a few of these things for this and Ganked.


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#4 Mangala Solaris

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 02:23 PM

Fits now added. I really hate Amarr for this line up, beams are a pain to make work. So sod them :D


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 07:03 PM

I can't quite fit the Arbitrator you suggested, so I was thinking of this as a pretty good alternate version. It tanks a lot better, but it loses some drone range and swaps the medium neuts for small ones.

I'm also not 100% sure on what drones I'll be able to take, but my Drone skills aren't quite up to spec for all of the Drones you listed. I'll make sure to take something similar though.

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#6 Mangala Solaris

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 07:48 PM

Excellent.  That looks pretty good, and going more tank is a good choice, given this fleet wont have tons of armour reps - something I considered but obviously not enough.

 

(i'll yoink that fit for a low sp alternative for when I write this doctrine up if it works out).


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#7 Catalyst XI

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 03:23 AM

x fail logi anchor reporting for student spanking


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 08:37 AM

If I can make it along, I'll probably go with this: buffer to survive until reps land, high enough resists to make good use of them, EM resists that can be overheated in case the students have done their homework and boom everywhere else.

 

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#9 Yngvarr

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 11:19 AM

All over this!!! So psyched!


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#10 Alexander Thorsen

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 12:53 PM

*sighs* Of course it's a night I have to work. Oh well.


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#11 Meisuko Liang

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 04:58 PM

What range are we aiming at?

 

Maller

5* heavy Beam II

Experimental 10 NM MWD, Large Shield Extender II, SB II

2* HS II, 2 Tracking Enhancer II, PDU II, DCU II

 

Medium energy burst aerator, Shield Extender, Medium anti-EM Screen Reinforcer

 

Aurora Ms are your friend.

 

(scratch it, I fitted wrong MWD)


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#12 Llewelyn Fawr

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 05:34 PM

What range are we aiming at?

 

Maller

5* heavy Beam II

Limited 10 NM MWD, 2* Large Shield Extender II

2* HS II, 2 Tracking Enhancer II, Signal Amp II, DCU II

 

Medium energy burst aerator, Processor Overclocking Unit, Medium anti-EM Screen Reinforcer

 

Aurora Ms are your friend.

 

Nope, nope, nope - Try it in EFT PyFA - Way over on PG & CPU.

Swap the MWD for an AB and you'll still need 3% PG.

 

[Maller, Aint Gonna Happen]

 
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Signal Amplifier II
Damage Control II
 
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
 
Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M
 
Medium Energy Burst Aerator I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
 
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#13 Meisuko Liang

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 05:45 PM

Sorry, I was using Null-Sec, then went to Jita with an alt to buy and fit.. :) Now though its in my hangar as posted above, drones included. Hey, its 247 dps at 64 km optimal, 78 km falloff

 

I admid the limited wmd threw me off by .. well  :)

 

Ok, wearing  3% CPU implant but Meisuko can fly this.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:19 PM

Since this is in low-sec, can those of us not currently in Red or Blue also join?


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:34 AM

 

Podding will be advised against, however we all know you will do it anyway, so get your own pods of field when dead.

 

You sure know how to ruin my fun, mang :(

 

Since this is in low-sec, can those of us not currently in Red or Blue also join?

 

You will get shot by people who have their overviews set up wrong, I guarantee it.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 01:42 PM

%#^%**+^^%%# working }#{#^*{*{#{{😩😭 And if not working I expect WAGGRO, life's a bitch at times like this
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Posted 24 June 2014 - 04:42 PM

 

Nope, nope, nope - Try it in EFT PyFA - Way over on PG & CPU.

Swap the MWD for an AB and you'll still need 3% PG.

 

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Alternative Shield Maller:

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Less EHP but higher resists to work with the shield logi, lower range but more DPS (still pretty low without drones) and less than 1:30 of capacitor time. Truly not good.

This one has longer range, lower DPS and less EHP, but can actually fight for more than two minutes:

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242 DPS to 66+15km range with Aurora, or 424 DPS to 9.2+15km with Gleam (no drones).

21.7k EHP with poor to average resists across the board. Cap stable when not firing the MWD, and good for 2:37 when it's on (needs cap boosters to run though).

I don't think you can make a good Maller or Omen to fit in with the pack. I did try - especially with the Omen.


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#18 Meisuko Liang

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:03 PM

Well, thus I asked about the engangement range we're aiming at, as with less range enhancers needed, more tank can be fitted :)


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 11:48 AM

Someone resend my last alliance mails / corp mails on this event to red & blue please. 

 

Should be the one that references this thread.

 

Make it so.

 

 

(id use evegate, but I think I linked things in it via the client and evegate wont forward those correctly.)


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#20 Mangala Solaris

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 04:30 PM

Since this is in low-sec, can those of us not currently in Red or Blue also join?

 

This is why I chose Hek as the jump off for Ganked.  Any Ganked folks wishing to attend can meet us near the target system or start from Poinen (but remember Ganked goes from Hek).


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