Jump to content


Photo

POS shooting battleship


  • Please log in to reply
16 replies to this topic

#1 Relnaya Paakh

Relnaya Paakh

    Drake

  • Friend of RvB
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 409 posts
40
Recruit
  • Favorite Ship:Rupture
  • Race:Amarr

Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:32 AM

Hi there!
 
I'm looking for a nice fit for a POS-shooting battleship.
 
What ship an fit would you recommend?
 
My personal wishes:
- Amarr (only battleships I have trained on 5 and no ammo need)
- Cap stable (probably impossible) or minimal need of cap booster charges
 
An Abaddon is the only battleship I have in HQ, so that would be my prefered ship.
But we could discuss other ships in this thread too...
 
Any recommendations of a experienced pos-shooter? I'm new to that topic.
Thank you!

  • 0

#2 Llewelyn Fawr

Llewelyn Fawr

    Astarte

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 728 posts
131
Crewman 2nd Class  Member Reputation
  • LocationSunny, sunny Glasgow, UK
  • Favorite Ship:Merlin
  • Race:Caldari

Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:59 AM

I am not experienced at POS shooting or Amarr ships but have been playing in PyFa a little as i don't want to pay for ammo.

Geddon as I already have one idle in my hangar:

[Armageddon, Cheap POS Bash]

 
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
 
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
 
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
 
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
 
T1 guns as I dont have big lazors V
 
At all V
Cap stable @ 37% (energy transfer for cap buddying if you dont have all the skills)
27.6km+16.4km
664 dps
70.4k EHP
 
Fittings come in under 18mil, including rigs

  • 0
This is my signature and it is the best!

#3 Llewelyn Fawr

Llewelyn Fawr

    Astarte

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 728 posts
131
Crewman 2nd Class  Member Reputation
  • LocationSunny, sunny Glasgow, UK
  • Favorite Ship:Merlin
  • Race:Caldari

Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:12 AM

[Abaddon, POS Abbadon T1 Lazors]
 
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
 
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
 
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
 
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
 
 
At all V
Cap stable @ 39%
27.6km+16.4km
711 dps
88k EHP
 
Fittings come in under 20mil, including rigs

  • 0
This is my signature and it is the best!

#4 Tragot Gomndor

Tragot Gomndor

    Rupture

  • Banned
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 275 posts
42
Recruit
  • Race:Amarr

Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:32 AM

i'm gonna use this:

[Armageddon, PvP]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared L
[empty high slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Vespa EC-600 x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5


i cant go without a propmod :D still capstable with mwd off, even with scorch/multifreq, 36km range with infrared, 113k ehp... whatever happens, i'm ready...

 


  • 0

#5 Vora

Vora

    Rupture

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 226 posts
29
Recruit
  • LocationLand of beer
  • Favorite Ship:Rifter
  • Race:Gallente

Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:28 PM

[Abaddon, POS Abbadon T1 Lazors]
 
....
 
Fittings come in under 20mil, including rigs

 

You could be a Swabian!

My POS wrecker looks almost identical. :D


  • 0
Very funny Mr. Scott, now beam down our clothes...

Posted Image

#6 Relnaya Paakh

Relnaya Paakh

    Drake

  • Friend of RvB
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 409 posts
40
Recruit
  • Favorite Ship:Rupture
  • Race:Amarr

Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:47 PM

Thanks for your fits!
We got intel in the other thread: http://rvbeve.com/fo...s-face/?p=76650
You're right, EM damage is the way to go. Did not know that.
Originally I had prepared an Abaddon fit with beam lasers and multifrequency, what did not work for me for some reasons.
As there is no Armageddon to buy in Red HQ I'll stick with the Abaddon with cap boosters and ask Llewelyn Fawr for some cap ;-)
 
[Abaddon, Abaddon POS Pulse]
 
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
 
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
 
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
 
 
Curator II x3
 
 
At all V
Cap stable @ 87% with cap booster charges
27.6km+16.4km
782 dps (928dps with sentry drones)
88k EHP
 
47.9mil fitting costs says pyfa

  • 0

#7 Emaleena Rogers

Emaleena Rogers

    Omen

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 155 posts
15
Recruit
  • Favorite Ship:Megathron
  • Race:Gallente

Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:38 PM

4 damage mods is always a bad idea. :s

That 4th mod is giving a fraction of its bonuses due to stacking penalties, so I would suggest you replace it with a extra tanking mod or something. A tracking Enhancer for a bit more projection and application, or a extra EANM would be much better imo.


  • 0
Posted Image

#8 Arjar Ammar

Arjar Ammar

    Dominix

  • Friend of RvB
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1401 posts
167
Crewman 2nd Class  Member Reputation
  • LocationBonnie Scotland
  • Favorite Ship:Rupture
  • Race:Minmatar

Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

4 damage mods is always a bad idea. :s

That 4th mod is giving a fraction of its bonuses due to stacking penalties, so I would suggest you replace it with a extra tanking mod or something. A tracking Enhancer for a bit more projection and application, or a extra EANM would be much better imo.

In any semi normal setup I would agree completely but for a bash of a POS with no onlined guns or shield mods then add in all the damage mods - I would however be keeping an eye out for any skuduggery in local and quite possibly be aligned out - can never be too careful ;)


  • 0

#9 Anna Banana

Anna Banana

    Vengeance

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 79 posts
8
Recruit
  • Race:Caldari

Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

I would definitely go with Domi or Geddon.  Might be the last POS bash you get to use them before they are mangled into something else.  Plus these fits are relatively cheap.

 

[Armageddon, POS Bash, total cost 133M ISK, 1106 raw/932 actual dps vs Caldari tower]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Damage Control II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Berserker II x5

 

[Dominix, Lazorpoatao POS Bash, 116M total cost, 1069 raw/932 actual dps vs Caldari tower]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Reactor Control Unit II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Berserker II x5


 


  • 0

#10 Dragon Venom

Dragon Venom

    Revelation

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2939 posts
196
Crewman 2nd Class  Member Reputation
  • Race:Minmatar

Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

Anna pretty sure only drones that can touch the POS are the Sentries which Geddon/Domi still can use


  • 0
Posted Image

#11 Thecla Elarik

Thecla Elarik

    Revelation

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2692 posts
208
Crewman 1st Class  Member Reputation
  • Favorite Ship:Cyclone
  • Race:Minmatar

Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:39 PM

Yes heavy drones are pointless if a POS shield is active. Sentries or go home. Also, you aren't expecting any opposition so just go full on DPS.


  • 0

#12 Anna Banana

Anna Banana

    Vengeance

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 79 posts
8
Recruit
  • Race:Caldari

Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:20 AM

Well then! Shows what I know.  Been a while since I shot at a pos, and I'm sure the last one I shot didn't have shields.


  • 0

#13 Dragon Venom

Dragon Venom

    Revelation

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2939 posts
196
Crewman 2nd Class  Member Reputation
  • Race:Minmatar

Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:31 AM

It has been reinforced so you can use your Berserkers now :P


  • 0
Posted Image

#14 Tsubutai

Tsubutai

    Bantam

  • RvB Member
  • PipPip
  • 10 posts
12
Recruit
  • Favorite Ship:Merlin
  • Race:Caldari

Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:47 AM

Assuming you don't anticipate resistance, just fit for max dps and cap stability. If you have a geddon sitting around, this should work with a simple refit, no rig swapping required:
 
[Armageddon, posgeddon]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
 
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
 
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
[empty high slot]
 
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
 
 
Garde II x5
 
Cap stable with max skills*, 1145 dps with t1 ammo. Gardes and multifreq tachs can hit at 30 km so as long as you have a warpin at the edge of the shield, you can just park it, hit F1, and go AFK.
 
*If you don't have max skills, drop a drone damage amp for a second cap power relay.

  • 0

#15 Thecla Elarik

Thecla Elarik

    Revelation

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2692 posts
208
Crewman 1st Class  Member Reputation
  • Favorite Ship:Cyclone
  • Race:Minmatar

Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:41 PM

It has been reinforced so you can use your Berserkers now :P

 

Nope. It is reinforced, the shield is still online. Can not use heavy drones on it.
 


  • 0

#16 Louis Robichaud

Louis Robichaud

    Abaddon

  • RvB Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1570 posts
176
Crewman 2nd Class  Member Reputation
  • LocationCanuckistan
  • Favorite Ship:Arbitrator
  • Race:Gallente

Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:32 AM

So... now that Odyssey has come, some of the ships have seen profound change.  The Domi was a pretty good POS basher, esp if the force field was down and you can get close and personal with heavy blasters.  Now that the hybrid turret damage bonus is gone, not so much.

 

So is the Domi still viable for this?  I'm sure the Armageddon faces similar challenges...


  • 0

#17 Tragot Gomndor

Tragot Gomndor

    Rupture

  • Banned
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 275 posts
42
Recruit
  • Race:Amarr

Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:50 AM

*rolls a dice* hm, sorry i dont tell my fit :D

 

but the geddon seems to have much more damage output then the dominix, in case of offline pos...

reverance: http://rvbeve.com/bl...l&kll_id=497875


  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users