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#1 Aspen Maddereck

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:35 PM

I want to eventually FC some fleets, and I have a couple questions.

First, what are the minimum leadership skills I will need before I start?

And second, how do you know what order to call targets?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
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#2 Cameron Zero

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:46 PM

STEP ONE: Desire to FC
STEP TWO: Create Fleet
STEP FOUR: Profit!


But, seriously, wanting to FC is the biggest step forward. As for skills, I think someone who has Leadership skills trained can answer that part, but I believe they aren't necessary to step up to FC.

As for calling targets, there's lots of different methodologies, but mostly you call ganky, high dps ships first, followed by closest, followed by everything else. Some of that is just experience (knowing who flies what, using the "Look At" feature to identify what guns a particular ship is using, etc), and some is just, "well, no one else is in range, everyone kill the maller!"

All that said, I've FC'd all of once, so other people with experience will chime in. :)
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#3 Mourning Souls

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 08:01 PM

No SP required to be FC. Bonus though if you have Armored Warfare, Information Warfare, Siege Warfare, Skirmish Warfare and Wing Command at 5.

Get to know all the ships. Know how they can and usually are fit. High tank, low DPS ships should be left for last. High DPS, low tank ships first.

Don't mumble, and try to broadcast targets, or ask someone to do it for you. Ideally someone in a low priority ship.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 10:33 PM

CJust ask in fleet if anyone has good leadership skills or mindlinks to give bonuses. I dont even have leadership skill lvl 1 but people are dumb enough to join my fleets anyway :D If you are crusier down, or dessy down or even just frigs you want to take out any close range Destroyers first, they have little to no tank but they deal damage can will murder frigs, so take them out. Then look for any high dps frigs, dont go after tanky ones like punishers etc unless you have the suspision they are dps gank fit. Then go for high dps crusiers like ruptures, vexor, and thorax. If there are bcs on the field be careful of calling them first, while they might be juicy you dont want to call a 75k ehp passive recharging drake as your target if you dont have the dps to kill ti quick.

If you are in frigs stay away from mallers, usually they small gun fit with scrams and webs, so try to kill them from range, also if the enemy fleet is bigger have everyone add u to watchlist, have them orbit u at 500m then pull your fleet off the gate maybe 10-20km so the enemy has to come to u and leaves those slow tanked crusiers/bcs behind.

The best thing to do is say you are new to fc'ing to you fleet , take suggestions under consideration, BUT DONT LET PEOPLE BULLY YOU! if they think you are not making the best decsions, they can go make their own fleet. This is a time for you to get experience, so if people start trying to talk over you just shout "CLEAR COMS, CHECK CHECK" and take control, people will shutup and do what you say if you take control, dont try to 1/2 ass FC, and you will do awsome ;)

Im glad you asked your questions and hope you have fun

Also for fc'ing its good to be in tanky ships, u dont need to do DPS ur fleet is there to do that. So max tanked pushishers with autocannons or mallers with tank, etc. You are just there to call targets and not be in a high gank dps ship to point everything. But having like target painters and tracking disrupters are good, not only gets u on kms but also helps your fleet overall
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:11 PM

All you need is the will to do so!
All you need to know really, is what ships you need to call primairy first, in order to have a chance at winning an engagement or getting a gf at least. (though calling anything is better then calling nothing)
in RvB the list of primaries for a cruiser down fights is pretty simple, goes something like this:
-Ruptures/Thoraxs and any usual sniping/range ships you can catch before they get too far out of range, arbys, caracals ect...
-All other cruisers that are close and aren't obvious bait aka mallers, a simply visual check will tell you if the maller is bait (small guns on the hull will be visible)
-if the remaining cruisers are tanky or too far, all destroyers should be primary (primaring destroyers while you figure out which cruisers are bait is usually a good idea as well, becasue destroyers never have any tank)
-frigates, basically anything that isn't a punisher, punishers should be last of the frigs if possible as they are the tankiest frigates usually.
-lastly, anything that is bait, (obviously) most notably mallers.

that's pretty much it, of course you will have to adapt for situation when for exemplar t2/faction frigs are involed, AFs should always die asap, inties are also high up in the primary list as they will fuck with any snipers you have on field, and faction frigs should also die quick simply becasue they're shiny :) . Any t2/faction cruisers that show up should be primary first if possible and appropriate.
If BCs are involved, as they sometimes are, basically you want to shoot canes first and drakes(usually) and prophecies last.

Besides target calling, something else you want to do is keep your fleet mates inline, what i mean by that is not to be arbitrarily strict or anything but making sure nobody tries to undermine your command. Back seat FCs have been the death of many gangs. Not only does it demean you as an FC but it creates confusion and does little to inspire confidence in you. If someone is doing this sort of thing when your FCing, politely tell him to stop, or suggest he take over the fleet (he most probably wont and he will look like a tool because of it). If he persists, tell him to STFU and kick him from fleet. This goes for anybody who is being a dick, you dont have to take shit from anybody if your FCing, your putting in the work to run a fleet while your fleet mates relax while watching you set them up for a fleet fight. If anybody is being a dick, kick em, and dont think twice about it, its well within your power as on FC.
It may sound like there are alot of assholes in RvB fleets, but there actually isnt, it just you have to be ready to deal with these people or you might get turned off FCing by some asshole becasue you didn't know how to handle him.

Everything else will come with practice and experience, so get out there and start whelping fleets! :D
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:26 AM

Please for the love of god, when calling targets call first three letters of name and shiptype, second part upto you and each FC has their own way. Reasoning for first 3 letters of name is, differing pronunciations with different accents. Makes for the fleet to get on primary and secondary faster.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:51 PM

a working microphone. Everything else is optional
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 08:49 PM

a working microphone. Everything else is optional

Including pants and sanity ....
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 04:03 PM

As Clio said; a microphone.

The rest you'll pick up.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 05:47 PM

Also id advise if your worried about telling people what to do or scared about talking to new people... we all want to get blown up.. so dont feel bad. If you dont want to be blown up in RvB.. then pls press the quit corp section.

Also ..

Including pants and sanity ....

No pants helps ^^
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