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#21 bluelysian

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:33 PM

We had been sharing our ideas about poding rule and reflections on RvB.

 

What is good for RvB,

NOT  what is  good for you! Me! Him!..

 

Nik is here as a fair leader  .. Kethen is extremely intelligent and solid theorycrafter as well as may be the best skirmisher in this game  those people who really caring RvB sharing their ideas .. all people writing here long enough in RvB and aware about our conditions

 

What you want in your name is your wants and seems very clean we understood Cela. We all know you are a value in RvB and  Kethen told me off last time when I argueed with you in those 1. Forum Implant Fights. Also was interesting how you approaching to a person those posts ,  actually  he is someone  trying to push me to behave towards you more respectfull.

 

 I need to hear from you or others  who agree with you to tell  that why you think that this is for RvB’s good?

How this one will serve to RvB in RvBs current reality conditions ?

 

Our Focuse point I think should be RvB … Currently our numbers very positive very optimist max 17 -18 in RvB community channel in active hours included alts and some people never show up in RvB space

It is so rare even we reach numbers 5v5 in RvB space currently..  how possibly  this rule will serve to us ?

OR ruin us …

 


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#22 bluelysian

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:07 PM

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#23 C11H17NO3

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 02:03 PM

I am not going to reply to these topics anymore because:

 

1. the counters have already been discussed:

     a. damp/ecm drones

     b. Get implants yourself or use links in corp

    c. Do not engage the pilot if you will not do A or B.

 

and MOST important:

 

2. Kethen T'val not in RvB for well over a year, ergo

  a. All arguements are ignored and blocked until such time as he is in RvB and active in RvB;

  b. in the spirit of full transparency and not creating psuedo drama (Kethen), my chars are

     1. c11h17no3

     2. celaqulundeo

     3. c20h26n2o

     4. Most people know this anyways.

 

 c. thats how you know im not using alts to create psuedo drama (well opposite arguments anyways)

 

 


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#24 Nikolai Mazinkov

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 04:12 PM

Chaz Aa, everyone knows that Cela.....


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#25 Kethen T'val

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 11:48 PM

No pseudo drama going on. Im attempting to have an actual conversation but that seems impossible.
 

What you need to understand is this:

 

1) Again, I know your counters. Me and others would easily do it if it wouldnt skew the group dynamic completely.

 

2) You are constantly ignoring the solo and small gang dynamic. Stop trying to invoke some kind of fake fact that countering you is something that has to be learned. I dont think that was ever an issue.

 

 

Your fun is right here in this supposed "pseudo drama" and the issue at hand is your actual content. In this way, like I said before, our fun comes from vastly different sources. So yes, you are doing the right thing by not responding to me because it leads to nowhere.


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#26 Hooligan Anstian

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 12:29 PM

Were this ever about doing something about implants?

 

To my understanding it was about a Rulechange that CCP did a few years ago. They changed it so that you dont have to Insure your pod in order to not lose any skills when you get podded.

 

RvB had a rule against podding because it is ridiculously expensive to insure your pod when you have high skills. Especially when you fly 10 Mio. ISK Frigates you dont want to lose a 100 Mio. everytime you get blown up.

 

But since CCP changed the mechanic we can now go back to pod killing.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 11:10 PM

While I totally approve the initiative, I still think there is a flaw in the premise.
I go to low in pirates to get the advantage... RvB space I’m in my learning/geno clone.
IMHO the only way to resolve the problem is to ban ”insert the offending implants here” cause anyone using them WILL get em out in high/low with very little marging of error. Anyone that can afford em is 99% time skilled enough to get away with them. The 1% time they get podded they go ”duh, memo to 1 self, drink less, Jita time”.
OFC banning will result in another unreasonable workload for command...
If it was easy...


This post is in no way meant to offend the for/against people , least of all command who gets a shit stick handed to them with a note : deal with it...
If it were easy we’d already have fixed it.
I’ve always been against bans of any kind as it add too many rules but this has been going on for wayyy too long and it does directly affect how RvB works,evolves, lives..
Why did we get a sudden Miri appear ? And with a comment ffs.
IRL I get to deal with about 150 team that work for me, with the layoffs and problems, on top of that I got 4 kids (2 teens, 2 younger) Ask yourself how much drama/complaints/shit would you put up with in a game you’re supposed to play for fun after that...
The command team goes above and beyond so that you could enjoy the game so instead of shining them off with a nice FU, how bout trying team play for once ? If the rules change to no pirates, how bout trying that.. The few loudest for implants say they use it for balance... Seriously... yeah for your own balance....
Nuff said, cheerios
(Not gonna add the MFS) ;)




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#28 Hooligan Anstian

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 09:10 AM

Implants are not the problem

 

There are alot of ways to improve your chances against others in pvp without them knowing you have an advantage.

Here are some:

  • Lots of Skillpoints
  • Using Communication (for example for baiting)
  • Drugs
  • Better Mods (T2, Faction… think of a player investing 1 Mio. Into his frigate vs one investing 10 Mio. ISK)
  • Checking Killboards to get Counters to your Enemies fit
  • Being a veteran elite pvp specialist
  • Implants

 

Think of someone using all those things against a new RvB member. Will the veteran win? Probably yes. Will the new guy be pissed? Probably yes. Would banning Implants have changed anything? Probably no!

 

So Miri is right when she says we would have a better time with more teamwork. We are one big company in a forever war. We are here to keep the pvp going:

 

Make the fights interesting!

Everyone can do something to improve the experience of RvB!


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:54 PM

New guy here... haven't joined yet, but I thought I'd give my two cents. it's simple... 1 rule. No podding. Isn't this supposed to be a fun pvp experience? People should be able to fit and fly anything to experience everything. However, podding is just a face slap. You're defenseless. There's absolutely no benefit to killing a pod, and if we're all supposed to be in this together, we shouldn't be destroying each others implants. As far as implants go... if you can afford it, you should be able to fit it. But, from what I'm reading here (still a new guy) some fleets go on hunts in low sec and WH space, so you're on your own if you encounter non-RvB ships that pod you.

 

In other words... be smart.. don't pod each other... and fly with whatever you want. 

 

Now... should I join RED or BLUE?


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#30 C11H17NO3

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Posted 28 November 2018 - 02:52 PM

I guess I will mention 1 last thing because I forgot to.

 

To all those players complaining about people using implants, just remember one thing, A LOT and by A L O T I mean a MASSIVE LARGE AMOUNT of content isn't possible or wouldn't happen without the use of expensive implants and drugs.

 

Do you really think I or anyone else would try to fight 5+ verses 1 odds in my 5+ bil kronos or 4+ bil vindicators without implants??  Yeaaaa riiiight.


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Posted 28 November 2018 - 05:36 PM

New guy here... haven't joined yet, but I thought I'd give my two cents. it's simple... 1 rule. No podding. Isn't this supposed to be a fun pvp experience? People should be able to fit and fly anything to experience everything. However, podding is just a face slap. You're defenseless. There's absolutely no benefit to killing a pod, and if we're all supposed to be in this together, we shouldn't be destroying each others implants. As far as implants go... if you can afford it, you should be able to fit it. But, from what I'm reading here (still a new guy) some fleets go on hunts in low sec and WH space, so you're on your own if you encounter non-RVB ships that pod you.

 

In other words... be smart.. don't pod each other... and fly with whatever you want. 

 

Now... should I join RED or BLUE?

 

 

Who are you really :)

 

You have no Killboard and you write like you have experience in PVP but you are new?

 

Getting podded is PVP  :)

 

It will teach you not to be a lazy pilot :)

 

And no not fly what ever you want because that will very quickly send you into the don't be a dick rule.

 

How about joining before you start to preach what is good and what is not :)

 

Join Reds we shall show you the light :)


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Posted 29 November 2018 - 08:37 PM

The light being those many twinkling lights inside a nice safe structure.......


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#33 C11H17NO3

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:09 PM

So where are all RvBers going to be able to go to see including staff that all members are not in implants(The banned ones anyways), or that if they are, the kills are non-rvbers/ in non-RvB space.

 

 

Pony meme's oclock.


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"" " Practice thy own rules you employ onto other's, thus we need not learn to trust you, other's can merely observe it to be so " ""





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