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#1 Lady Ayeipsia

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 04:27 PM

https://community.ev...line-ascension/

Most of the changes are minor... Just changing text from download the game and pay a sub to just download the game. The big news though....

This change is related to the CONDUCT part of the EULA, specifically Section B, which has been updated as follows:

B. Selling Items and Objects

You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. You may not use, transfer or assign any game assets for games of chance operated by third parties. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.

In short, this addition to the EVE Online EULA means that as of the launch of EVE Online: Ascension, players will be prohibited from using in game assets and currency, as well as the EVE IP, to take part in or promote gambling services or other games of chance that are operated by third parties.

With this in mind, as of this announcement we have taken action against two organizations that are currently offering third party services based around gambling and games of chance:

The third party service IWANTISK has been shut down in game, and all ISK and assets have been confiscated after extensive and exhaustive investigation has brought forward compelling evidence of large-scale Real Money Trading. Permanent account suspensions have been issued against those involved.

The third party service EVE Casino has been shut down in game, and all ISK and assets have been confiscated after multiple and sustained breaches of our Developer License Agreement. Permanent account suspensions have been issued against those involved.
Please note: CCP will not be issuing reimbursements based on outstanding ISK or asset balances with either of the above mentioned organizations that have been subject to account action and/or ISK and asset confiscation.
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Posted 12 October 2016 - 06:34 PM

Fantastic news, will help fix jita annoyances.
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Posted 12 October 2016 - 06:56 PM

There is lots of good and bad in this, but better they do this now than in another year,

 

Lots of people and services will change, several will die, based on the things that were supported by 3rd party sites, including the betting sites. Think news people, public events, etc. all funded through this, not just annoyances in Jita or things like WW Bee


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:31 PM

Did they seize assets from Eve-Bet?

 

If so I should be getting my tear-bucket. This will be glorious, especially with the AT going on.
 


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:32 PM

no, it is specifically in there that Iwant ISK and a few others were investigated and assets siezed, however eve-bet has until the EULA officially changes to "wind down" meaining your AT bets are legal still, and you can withdraw anything left after those matches are done and ISK is won or lost.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:32 PM

If eve cannot not exist without betting then let it die, hey maybe they will put in SP for PvP kills to off set it!!
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 02:18 AM

I bet you 50 billion ISK that Eve won't die.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:18 AM

I bet you 50 billion ISK that Eve won't die.

 

Bravo!  *slow clap*


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:02 PM

< got owned, which should not be a surprise..
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:04 AM

Confirmed you can still pull funds from eve bet, not sure how long it will last though

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 12:18 PM

they have until the EULA is official, so pull as soon as your AT bets are done.

 

Also, if you happen to have any bet codes, redeem them, bet on the soonest ending and then pull.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:04 PM

I would advise against putting more money onto your Eve-bet account.

They know they are shutting down. There is basically no reason for them to give your money back.

Especially when this weekend they'll have the most isk they'll ever have before they are forced to shut down.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:27 PM

i just mean you still have some chance of getting codes redeemed, and if you dont redeem, bet and withdraw now, they will be worthless


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:59 PM

I already got my isk out of eve-bet. I did have one bet left which I lost, but the website was down on Sat when I checked.


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 08:58 AM

Eve bet has shut down permanently because they kept getting DDOS'ed (allegedly) and didn't feel like fixing it since they have to close down in november anyway.

They did say they will pay everyone though, so there's that.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 07:47 AM

http://crossingzebras.com/rip-bet/You need to ask for ur isk back before the EULA changes otherwise you are shit out of luck.
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 07:50 AM

That's actually pretty smart on their part.

They can claim to be the good guy because they're still paying people out, but they will still retain a shitton of unclaimed isk.


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