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#1 Samuel Vokan

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:17 PM

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So You Want to Command a Fleet in RvB?

Info For New FC's and Veteran FC's

 

Note: Posted in general chat so future FC's can see it before commanding.

Have you ever thought that you wanted to be more than just another ship in the line? Do you want to make a name for yourself? Earn a good reputation? Perhaps even aspire to one day join the command staff in the most active PvP corporation in EvE? This guide is here to help you to become somebody. This guide is for people who have aspirations in EvE. Although this guide is mainly focused on new FC's please read it if you are an experienced FC as we do things very differently here!

 

Of course I cannot answer every question you may have here, so if you do want some more guidance you have lots of options:

  • Mail an FC or Command Member in game   

  • Post in this thread 

  • Ask an experienced FC to help you 

  • Convo an FC or Command Member in game

 

To begin I'd like to point out your primary objectives as a Fleet Commander in RvB.

  • Keep people entertained! This is RvB, we're not a serious business corporation, we're here to have fun!   

  • Keep fights going! That means talking to the enemy FC, balancing ships and numbers!

 

And I cannot stress this enough:

The objective of a Fleet Commander in RvB is NOT to win fights. RvB FC's are there to help create balanced, fair and fun fights with as little drama as possible. Forget everything you learnt about Fleet Commanding in 0.0/low sec because here: Winning is NOT IMPORTANT.

 

Now, I'll break commanding here into three steps:

  • Forming the fleet, getting a fight   

  • During the fight   

  • End of the fight

 

How To Form Up and Get a Fight:

 

You can do this on your own or if you are a little nervous then ask an experienced FC to help you along with this! Just convo one of us and we will help you the whole time!

 

Communication is Key: Before you even start a fleet consider asking in RvB Community or R-V-B if the other side has a fleet out. If they do, ask who their FC is and convo them. If they don't then either wait for an enemy FC, go and FC for the other side or go out and roam. (Eventually you will gain access to the channel RvB Fleets where this can also happen)

 

Once you have convo'd the other FC you can say something along the lines of:

  • Want to get a fight going?
  • Cruiser down no logi? Frigates only? BC Down? Logi allowed?

    • (You can always tell the other FC it is your first time and you would like to do frigs only, 90% of the time they will agree)

  • Shall we fight on the Poinen gate in Jos?   

  • Your rough numbers?

 

Ok so now you have some intel it's time to form your fleet. Form your in game fleet and create a fleet advert open to your corporation. Post your advert in your corp chat and form your guys up in your home system. Tell them where to go, what ships to bring etc. A message of the day can help here as it means people don't have to keep asking your questions, a good fleet MOTD reads something like this:

 

SHIPS: CRUISER DOWN NO LOGI

Our FC: Samuel Vokan

DO NOT SHOOT: Charles Burger (Enemy FC)

Form up: Warp to Sam in Liekuri

 

Again I must stress:

 

Balancing fleets is NOT about getting the exact same number as each other. The right way to do this is to say roughly 15 people cruiser down and NOT: Ok we have 7 cruisers 8 frigs because by the time you get there these numbers WILL change and people WILL create drama.

 

Using Scouts can also stop drama. Either A: Use a scout to get a view of their fleet before the fight or B: Warp the fleet to a corp bookmark around the fight location to get eyes on their fleet before combat. This stops you warping into a blob twice the size you were expecting.

 

Ok so now you have your fleet together, you're formed up in your home system, you're in the right ships, you're ready to go. Try to keep comms as open as possible, talk to people, keep it relaxed, keep it fun and try to keep form up times short.

 

During the Fight:

 

  • Encourage people to reship as fast as possible

  • Call primary's and secondary's (People get the most terrified by this part. If it's relatively close and not a small gun maller then it's a good primary, simple!) 

  • Remind people not to shoot the enemy FC 

  • Keep encouraging your lads and lasses. E.g: Good job reshipping guys, Keep it up!  

  • If you're losing the field feel free to tell everyone to scatter, winning is not important.

  • You may die to stray DPS, just let someone else call targets whilst you reship.

  • DO NOT BITCH TO YOUR FLEET ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OR THE OTHER FC. EVER.

 

Good job! The fighting bit is over. Remember winning/losing is not important here. The key points to look back on are whether your guys had fun and whether it was a good fight with some good kills!

 

End of the Fight:

 

  • (Optional) Let the enemy FC go at the end, this is one of the best gestures you can do as an FC. Please do it! It will give you an amazing reputation. Do this even if they wouldn't do the same to you, be the man! Sometimes they will return the favour! 

  • Tell everyone to put gf's in local! Do it yourself as well, you can also put a gf in your convo with their FC.   

  • If you won: let your guys loot the field then head home.   

  • If you lost: head back to reship and organise another fight, even asking the enemy FC: “Same again?” will do! 

  • Tell your guys to link killmails in fleet chat for everyone to see.   

  • Enjoy your free rewards: RvB offers FC's a great 'Loyalty Point' reward scheme. You deserve it!

 

So there we have it. Your first time Fleet Commanding in RvB hopefully doesn't feel as scary now! And if you're an experienced FC from elsewhere in EvE you now know more about how we act around here.

 

If you have any questions or feedback please do get in touch with a command member! Thank you for reading!

 

Samuel Vokan

Former RvB FC Co-ordinator

Former RvB Veteran Fleet Commander

Former RvB Team Commander

Former Republic Guard

 

Useful Links:

(Links in red will only work if you have access to the FC section of the forum, access is given to regular FC's)

(Links in green are from external sources and not all information will be relevant to RvB, they are however a good source for additional reading)

RvB and FC Etiquette: http://rvbeve.com/fo...-and-etiquette/

Shmores Fleet Operation Guide: http://rvbeve.com/fo...897-rvb-fleets/

Free FC Ship Replacement Program: http://rvbeve.com/fo...program-v20131/

New FC Free Ships Reward: http://rvbeve.com/fo...raging-new-fcs/

Fleet Commander Title Thread: http://rvbeve.com/fo...mmander-titles/

RvB Fleets Channel Info: http://rvbeve.com/fo...nel-rvb-fleets/

Some RvB FC suggestions http://rvbeve.com/fo...ce-suggestions/

Gary's Target Calling Advice http://rvbeve.com/fo...-and-knowledge/

External Link: FC Target Calling 101 http://evegateway.bl...alling-101.html

External Link: Fleet Commanding 101 http://evegateway.bl...anding-101.html

External Link: EVEWiki Command Guide http://www.eve-wiki....Commander_Guide

External Link: TenTonHammer Target Calling Guide http://www.tentonham...calling_targets

Azuals RvB FC Class (Audio Guide from 2011) http://rvbeve.com/fo...s-rvb-fc-class/

D-Scan Results Tool (For Scouts) http://eve-dingo.com/index.php

 

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#2 Scyleth

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:33 PM

Wow I can't believe someone gave you negative rep for this post, I think we need to fix that.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:34 PM

Rule #1 of being an RvB FC: Don't be a dick. Yah between you and me Scyleth, we got it to +1 :)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:35 PM

Haha I know who it was, as they were the only person viewing at the time, thanks for the rep =)

 

 


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:44 PM

And it wasnt me :)

 

Also missing link to this post: http://rvbeve.com/fo...-and-etiquette/ (or at least you highlighting the salient points).

 

And if you are going to highlight programs, explain them and/or link to them please buddy.

 

A note from me to FC's - no matter how brief your fleet MOTD, some idiots will never read it, those same idiots are usually the idiots moaning in chat/on voice about how they are tackled at a place YOU & Your fleet are not - usually the enemy station where these idiots think they should be without you asking them to be etc.  Feel free to kick that sort of person from your fleets. If they want to do that let them form their own fleet or go solo or whatever.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:48 PM

nice write up!


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:48 PM

Mr. Mang, can you pin this please? So people can read this/Sam can direct people who convo him to this post?


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:48 PM

Good suggestion Mang, I'll start to add a 'Useful links' section at the bottom now =)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:57 PM

Updated with a useful links section at the bottom! Any more suggestions please let me know!


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:59 PM

Shmores Fleet Operation Guide: http://rvbeve.com/fo...897-rvb-fleets/


Free FC Ship Replacement Program: http://rvbeve.com/fo...program-v20131/

 

Fleet Commander Title Thread: http://rvbeve.com/fo...mmander-titles/

 

this links seems to be dead


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#11 Samuel Vokan

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:01 PM

Those links will only work if you have access to the FC section of the forum, I'll add a note in

 

EDIT: Note added =)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:06 PM

Excellent work Sam, I must also commend you for using colors that are not an ugly shade of neon and that can actually be read on the white theme :D


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:12 PM

Last time I used too many colours I was told off so I tried to keep it not too vibrant... ;)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 03:13 PM

More threads, some not so relevant but they may provide ideas for additions here.

 

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...leet-etiquette/ (obvious)

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...s-rvb-fc-class/

Little outdated but its a great video from a class the awesome Azual Skoll did for RvB

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...nel-rvb-fleets/ (Del explaining about the fleets channel)

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...r-you-like-fcs/ (thread on encouragement ideas)

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...leet-commander/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...code-of-ethics/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...-from-your-fcs/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...cs-new-and-old/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...ns-about-fcing/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...egarding-fcing/  (Yes it was another thread!)

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...-and-knowledge/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...to-start-fcing/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...ce-suggestions/

 

http://rvbeve.com/fo...starting-to-fc/

 

As I say at the top, not all relevant, but may be useful for whatever purposes.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:00 PM

Nice thread, can you please do a guide on how to be an upstanding gentleman, same text
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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:08 PM

Nice thread, can you please do a guide on how to be an upstanding gentleman, same text

 


Can I do it as an audiobook?


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:21 PM

Significant amount of new links added, thanks mang =)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:38 PM

Oh god you changed the font to cursive. I hate you. Makes it harder to read.
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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:43 PM

The font's been the same since the start? It's Comic Sans MS

 

You're such a moaner ;)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:59 PM

Comic Sans? the only people who use comic sans are children (and yes, I'm a giant moaner)


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